Bilexperten Bosch inspecting 2013 Model S P85 (Millennium Falcon)

This guy is the kind of mechanic you want to service your car. He knows what he’s looking for..

Thanks for another great video

salt in NW is so bad for those cars :(

Replace the radiator only because is a bit smashed ? I'm not sure w/o someone covering the costs I would do it

The unfortunate issue with bad front lower ball joints is per service manual the main battery has to be removed before you can remove the bolt attaching the lower control arm (bolt is installed from the rear and battery is in the way). And the bolt is recommended to be installed in the original orientation. If the ball joints were replaceable that would be much easier for DIY mechanics.

Btw rust on the arms has nothing to do with suspension breaking smh.... I dont understand how people believe this 🤦‍♂️. Rust everywhere just change the whole car 😂😂😂. Rust is only on the surface

Bosch dont know what they are doing. They think they know but in reality they dont. All they know is how to check suspension which any shop can do. They don't know how to diagnose Electrical issues and bring the car to tesla and charge the customer double 😂😂😂

This video is so eye opening! Maybe it’s all the miles in the snow/salt but that’s quite a bit of work and some design related accelerated wear/rust I feel. Phenomenal video for anyone looking to get an early Model S!

Not surprising tbh. Great tech & got a jump on other manufacturers but typical American car build quality. Even now I don't rate them that well (on quality) but hopefully next generation Tesla improve the quality. Otherwise as other 'quality' manufacturers catch up on the EV tech side of things, Tesla could end up irrelevant.

It is shocking how little weather protection there is in and around the wheel wells.

It looks like working on an electric car is a lot easier and less messy than on an ICE car.

My '16 S90D is 298.000km. No cost until now, checking like you do at tesla SC and I'm starting to renew the tired parts. - 12v battery changed because of weakness - central active louver - first airco maintenance Planned end of this month : - front driveshafts - both front under arms - rear upper link - horn replacement Will be like new

Hi Bjørn, Jeg ønsker å kjøpe model S 2016. Bare lurer på at hvilken typer er bedre å ha , P90D, 75D, eller 85D, med over 100.000 km. Mvh, Rajmund

Most of the stuff is pretty normal. Except those front control arms and the steering linkage, never seen anything that bad even on cars twice the age. Those parts are usually parts that last the whole lifetime of the car...

In fact, it is a car almost 10 years old, driven in a country with snowy winters with salty roads. So taken that in consideration, not that bad at all. If you compare to videos from the Dutch Autoweek with their high mileage cars, a lot of other fancy cars have their week points.

Most disturbing thing is the steering wheel connection. This should not rust like this.

Awesome check! Super nice!

So glad there’s no need to salt roads in Australia.

The most important video on EVs ever. The problem is, that you need to go to an independent shop like that. And there aren’t many of them. And Tesla won’t investigate and tell you that stuff. 2014 model S owner. This will be a problem in time

OK, on the "outside parts" like suspension, braking wires, control arms corrosion is normal. But there are many spots you shouldn't find dirt, moisture and rust. I remember my 1988 7 series BMW. I had it till 2009 and it was clean and dry like from the factory under every cover. I think Tesla should take more care to seal up everything right. Maybe they already do, but in 2013 they obviously didn't. Nice and informative video, most people showing only the good side of their cars.

Excellent info, got me interested in Bosch services.

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6:03 Drives over a speed bump at 30km/h and says yeah -.-

Rusty & corrosive -salt & rock during winter time

This guy really knows his shit. I like this type of content!

My 2005 Audi A6 (300k km) does not have such rust!

This is a great video to show case the time worn on older model Tesla's and what to look for. Awesome video Bjorn!

So this is were you save to money on electric car from US... everything is rusting :D

Years over Years no Service, that´s the Problem

Did he say ass compressor @9:15 ? Lol joking 😂 I know he meant A/C compressor. Nice in-depth video!

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My 2004 audi s4 10 times beter with the rust. Realy bad tesla quality

Very interesting! Thank you, Bjorn!

I like it when you say kaputt or Schmutz or sch*sse

Damn , the damage is extensive. I guess the cold climate takes its toll. Also, doesn't look like a quality car, but then again, several hundred thousand kms...

Loss of steering. Not acceptable. Can it be mended via software update 😂😂😂

Sounds like the bills to repair will cost more than you paid for it?

300,000 km 180,000 miles is not that far. Particularly for an EV which is generally kinder to its components than a fossil vehicles. It having avoided the usual frequent visits to garages that fossil cars suffer from has 2 results firstly a lot of small jobs will have not been spotted. However also a lot of damage that mechanics usually cause when "servicing" your car.

Really enjoying this path your taking of looking at older Tesla issues as I have both a 2014 S and 2019 3, and having the common issues to lookout for will keep the these classics alive!

Next week the weather is improving, with a lot of sunshine. Good time to give Millennium Falcon his first test run.

Do you perhaps have a list with all the driveline parts that have been replaced in the years since 2013?

Wow, one of your best videos!!!

Thanks for sharing this. I love to see how well (or not well) certain parts of an original Model S are holding up.

Well if the steering rod has that much rust how can customers trust Robotaxi ? It could break during a Robotaxi trip 😱😱😱 so dangerous the Tesla won't be able to steer!

Good video. That is a very good mechanic and you can learn a lot about car maintenance from him especially for Tesla cars just by watching this video.

7:15 Bjorn, its time for you to learn what a "towing eye" is

Nassir = the Tesla Wizard

Hey Bjorn, Nassir surely seems as though he knows his stuff. The Model S has held up well in the Norwegian Salt. Not as well as my 200K mile (320k km) 1999 Mustang GT, but then again it has lived all its life in the San Francisco Bay Area. There are many early Model S cars in California which still seem like new (except for the door handles).

I love how the technician use both Norwegian and English word and everybody understand what he is talking about :) Service at its best.

Hva er prisene på dette og det diverse som ble byttet?

Tesla needs to see this video.

Very impressed with the thoroughness of the inspection, and knowledge of the technician. I doubt there is an independent company in the US that would be able to do such inspections and repairs. Tesla does not make it possible for third party companies to buy the tools and parts necessary to do such work.

All cars could do with silicone lube on windows

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Preventative maintenance

I am surprised that the car has not had regular rust prevention undercoating spray applied. It's common practice in Nova Scotia to have an oil undercoating spray applied annually.

Great video Bjorn, yeah years have passed and that is all normal to happen, all cars need maintenance... that´s good to fix them now then later on the road. rain, ice, salt roads, dust, mud, low temperatures, bumps all that

I'm not surprised, maybe another point since Tesla does not want expertise in maintaining older Tesla models. Since they fear that it may be a big recall to perhaps uncover critical desgin errors. Great video Bjørn

Will be interesting to see the quote. For a more common vehicle, I might guess a $5K bill for the parts shown w/ labor, but maybe $10K for a Tesla, given high parts costs. The front condenser and radiator changes I would skip since the pebble hits are just to the fins which doesn't cause leaks. Perhaps spray them clear from behind and bend back any which obstruct airflow. If the AC refrigerant is truly leaking (TBD), it looks like just cleaning and replacing the O-rings at the fittings would fix it. That year might have used common R-134A refrigerant vs the new and pricey R-1234yc. The brake tubes, I would clean and if the metal isn't pitted w/ corrosion, coat w/ quality paint (Zn-Cr primer). I wouldn't fuss with the rear lower ball joints. The play is very minimal so much life left in them and you would never notice it unless going airborne over railroad tracks. I wouldn't fuss with the wiper controls due to the aluminum oxide. Just clean and paint if worried about it. Definitely change the rusted steering coupler since very dangerous as is. Looks like a part designed for only CA/AZ.

Let us know the total cost of these repairs, it will be a very important and informative thing (if not the most), thank you ☺️ excellent video and that guy was very kind and exhaustive explaining the problems 👍

Oh Lordy, Tesla had so much to learn back then.

Millennium Falcon looks like a "Money Pit" :-o

Looking forward for your DIY tesla chanel :P

Very interesting video 👍🏻 Thanks Bjørn !

Just had to repair suspension rear halfshaft on my S85 of 2013... cost a little less than 1000€. But the car feels like new now, pretty amazing. Besides the "under warranty" repairs (drivetrain and battery) I had almost the same problem with the handles on the right side of the car, actually mine would not come out at all. Repair was around 300€, they had to redo the wiring and to change the control unit. After 250.000km and 7+ years it's really low cost maintenance.

Great idea bringing back the Millennium Falcon to document what problems one person could encounter and the good things too! More interesting than see another video of a another new car 👍

Maybe the first models were designed for California weather. :) Norwegian salt is the arch enemy of all metal parts. That's why Norwegian metal is the hardest! :D

Nassir is excellent, you should partner up and do more runthroughs of checklists of older EVs to show common faults.

What a great and competent mechanic!

This is very good shop....so detailed and informative. I would bring my car there. I am curious to know the price.

OMG - That Tesla Quality is Horror , Rust and Rust and Rust.....very nice Video 👍🏻👍🏻

Yo watsup😂😂😂

Looking forward to the follow up video.

Excellent mechanic. Difficult to find in USA.

This was a great video! It is cool to see how far Teslas have come since 2013 and how even their older cars are still holding up!

that's a real damn good expert. very very interesting !! he knows tesla's !

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@28:36, alternative affordable and excellent Tesla repair service is available in Norway. Not in USA.

More detailed servicing videos pls.

@26:04, that A-arm should be made of one-piece heavy gauge solid steel, but Tesla uses 3 rivets to joint two thin pieces. Translation: Tesla had cut corners.

Mayby think changing the cabin air filter more than once 5 years.

Great video. 7 years and all these problems. Please share what the repairs cost! 👍

Very interesting Björn, but I think you should still buy it back after the repairs

Hello, are you going to do degradation test on this?

@bjørn Nyland have you heard that Danish Tesla model S owners suing Tesla, for slow charging? This was introduced in SW from 2019 and affect models from 2013-15.

This is very intesting to me, since I am now looking to buy my first car and I decided to go with a used ev. Now I am considering whether I should get something like a 2018 ioniq or maybe an older tesla model s or even a model 3 if the used market price comes down a bit, although the 20-25k euro model 2 might also stir things up a bit for people like me.

my have drive my TOYOTA sine 2007 but still in good condition no any rust or huge damage like this.

No big surprise here! We all knew about the poor and inadequate rust protection... Any 7 year old Mercedes with 350.000 km on the clock would display the same issues.

That cabin air filter wasn’t changed for ages!!

I’m impressed by how well this technician knows the Model S and can describe the issues in a foreign language. Kudos to him! How quick and easy can independent shops get parts from Tesla in Norway? Or do they buy directly from the parts manufacturer?

Micro scratches = Swirls

Pretty good considering the mileage and the salty Norwegian roads

The"wet" traces/stains on the AC system/joints are actually compressor lubrication oil that leaves with the refrigerant the AC cycle thorugh the leaks. Small leaks are difficult to find through pressure testing. It is better to use an electronic leak detector or a Helium/Hydrogen leak detection system that might give you also an idea of the leak rate in g/years.

Dankeschön für das Super Video

Hard winters, snow, rain and salt, I think Tesla survived and did well. But still they could have closed the holes which allows the dirt and mud gets inside.

Excellent video Bjorn. Can’t wait for part 2. You are providing a HUGE amount of valuable information to other Model S owners. 👍

In the UK the cheapest Tesla Model S' are around £30k (354680 NOK) for a 2013/14. Quite expensive for second hand; will be interesting to see what repair costs would be for a refresh on something that old

Is it possible to do a video like this on a high km 28kwh Ioniq? It would be very interesting seeing how South Korean quality is compared to American.

wow that cabin filter looks like its never been changed

Never buy a used Model S